Our topic for Bible Study on Thursday, 5/28, is heaven and hell. There's a rich history of how the images and understanding of heaven and hell developed, mostly through culture/art/literature, rather than scripture. There are some good books and resources out there that unpack that more fully. For our conversation, though, we'll turn our attention to what's in scripture (and realize what isn't). To guide our conversation - some questions to reflect upon:
First, theologian Richard Rohr (video from The Work of the People resource site, to which I have a subscription): Second, a Lutheran perspective which also outlines the scripture that references and informs some of the images of heaven and hell: "By the light of grace: how does the ELCA understand heaven and hell?" Go read it! (Someone alerted me that their browser wouldn't open this link - the article is also included in this PDF - it begins on page 5 - the first four pages are a related (but not necessarily recommended) study guide.)
Additionally, shared by Bill S. - this document, and additionally this blurb: "In 1 Sam 28, Saul, just before the battle with the Philistines in which he is killed, consults with a medium (though he earlier banned them). He asks her to bring back the dead prophet Samuel, which she does. Samuel complains: “Why have you disturbed me by bringing me up.” (verse 15) This appears to mean up from the grave and that he was perhaps asleep?" (There are other references in the scripture, in Paul's New Testament letters and depending on interpretation, in Jesus' own words, to death as falling asleep.)
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Our Thursday night Bible study had a general discussion about contradictions in scripture and how we handle them - now next Thursday, 5/21, we'll discuss three big umbrella areas of Biblical interpretation/contrast, which are relevant or come up in our actual lives:
We chose these three topics as ones that all are relevant and may strike close to our own views on our identity, our behaviors, and our social views. We never really do read any of the topical verses completely in isolation, nor should we. So, when considering the individual topics and verses below, do any of these overarching verses/themes inform how you read and interpret the topics and specific verses? (Or what are yours?)
![]() WAR/PEACE/VIOLENCE Here is just a sampling of the spectrum of interpretation on this topic and the scriptures that support it (not in a particular order):
Some interesting resources/official denominational perspective:
MONEY Here is just a sampling of the spectrum of interpretation on this topic and the scriptures that support it (not in a particular order):
SEX/GENDER (ROLES)/SEXUALITY Here is just a sampling of the spectrum of interpretation on this topic and the scriptures that support it (not in a particular order):
GENDER ROLES
Some interesting resources/official denominational perspective:
Contradictions in the Bible - will be the open discussion topic for Bible study on Thursday, 5/14/20 at 7:30. All are welcome to join us - even if you'd just like to listen! Here are some questions to guide our conversation, or your own thinking through this topic: Does the Bible contradict itself? Does it matter? When? Do the contradictions bother you? Are they not contradictions but something more complicated? Does the Bible/its authors care that there are contradictions? Which contradictions come to mind or bother you? What do you think God thinks? Here's some background/resources: So . . . have you ever come across or been faced with something that at least appeared to be a contradiction in scripture? How did you feel about it? Did it bother you, or no big deal? Not to beat around the bush, the first issue is to consider whether you believe that there are contradictions in the Bible or not. Simply put, I, Pastor Brett Davis, say YES, absolutely there are contradictions in the Bible! (Scroll down to the accordion/drop-down menus for some examples.) For a number of reasons, the Bible is far from internally consistent, especially when "proof-texting," pulling out a lone verse to compare with another, or even regarding some larger themes. It's simply a truth of history that the Bible can be directly cited to support completely opposite claims. Now, this sets me apart from doctrinal positions of some other Lutherans, including the entire denominations of the Lutheran Church Missouri-Synod (LCMS), and Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod (WELS). This isn't to say that the ELCA has one singular view of this issue. A good, quick overview of what the ELCA generally believes is here, Diane Jacobsen's "What Lutherans Think about the Bible," in which she writes: Jacobsen also said: “I take joy when scripture contradicts itself, because this indicates that God’s truth is far more complicated than my truth. If we use it to make life easy, we betray how scripture makes truth work.” Scripture does not offer us easy answers, but instead requires us to take part in the hard work of interpreting God’s word for today’s concerns. What do you think?? I also find helpful this explanation from Martin Marty's Lutheran Questions, Lutheran Answers, to the question "Are there Errors in the Bible?" Bill helpfully shared this blog from scholar Bart Erhman on "The Historical Significance of Contradictions." Some important questions to consider is - does the Bible, or individual author/community even care or know that they might be contradicting something else? Can it be something more complicated than flat contradiction? What genre is this writing? How might it use language? (FYI/background: this Bible Chronology compiled by Bill is helpful to know the history and timeline.) Dig even deeper and consider as a contrast to a straight factual analysis, the dialogic approach to scripture as Peter Enns describes in this video below, regarding wrestling with what the Bible says - and why it doesn't just say one thing: Contradictions - or are they? Just a few examples - which ones can you think of?5/1/2020 What are our lenses? Reading the Bible: Literal to Literary, and everything in betweenRead NowIn our Thursday night Bible study, we're about to start a new series of open-ended discussions, that draw on scripture passages/stories but lead us into conversation about relevant topics and things we'd like to explore. For each, there's going to be a post here with some read-aheads/resources. These will remain up as good resources, too, to point back to as reference in general for these topics. The first one we're tackling, the subject of this post, is how do we read the Bible? Here's a great < 10min video - Theologian Will Willimon on Biblical interpretation, who says: "the task of interpreting the Bible is unavoidable. That dear soul who says, 'I just read the Bible and let it speak,' that dear soul is self-delusional. Any act [or context of reading] are in themselves acts of interpretation." This is a great introduction: Hermeneutic Self-Inventory – “hermeneutics” means biblical interpretation. This 19-question inventory takes you through thinking about what might shape or influence how you interpret the Bible, like in my example above regarding the parable of the prodigal son. Because, whether you think so or not, factors do influence how you read the bible. A bookmark to print and keep in your Bible – the Lutheran Lens on scripture & Willimon’s 5 tools of interpretation. In his book The Great Spiritual Migration (which we studied as a congregation a couple years ago), a theological migration toward a loving God found in scripture, we must address how we regard and interpret scripture. McLaren presents this as a spectrum, from literal to literary on one axis and integral to innocent on the other, that you might find yourself and others in one of these boxes: Quotes to consider: Recommended Further Reading:
For the Bible tells me so, by Peter Enns. Manna and Mercy, Daniel Erlander. Telling the truth: the Gospel as Tragedy, Comedy, and Fairy Tale, Frederick Buechner. |
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